The old ancestors of the Chinese called an organ and a class of functions together the spleen, then foreigners dissected the human body and called an organ the spleen, then later this word called spleen came to China, and to find a Chinese word to correspond to it, the spleen was reluctantly translated as the spleen.

Note that in China, it was the word spleen that came first, with its specific connotations and extensions.

After spleen was translated as spleen, people started saying that Chinese medicine was talking nonsense about the spleen not having a digestive function.

Please re-run this historical sequence, and it's easy to see that it's not the spleen that has no digestive function,, it's the spleen that has no digestive function, and what the Chinese say about the spleen isn't exactly the same as the spleen at all.

In fact, there are many people who may not realize that not according to the Chinese medical books, the spleen is not in the same position as the spleen, what can this mean? It means that the semantic scope of each definition is different.

The reverse is also the same, people uncle refers to include uncles and uncles, including these people, we give people translated into uncle, after that began to ridicule people do not have uncle, and this is originally their history and culture formed, from the genetic point of view, for a person, the relationship between uncles and uncles is undifferentiated, and our Chinese culture has a difference, so there is a difference between uncles and uncles! .

A lot of times it's not about what's right or wrong, it's about looking at history from our point of view today and laughing at the past, something that is inherently ridiculous, and that's more because of our own ignorance than anything else.

It doesn't make any sense to come out and spout off with prejudice without getting it right. That said, a lot of people black Chinese medicine, black Chinese everything, Chinese medicine is not without problems, Western medicine is not without problems, each has its own limitations and advantages, in the case of not clear the situation of the black, even if the Chinese medicine black to you what good is it?

I don't have a problem with anyone coming out and talking about the issues, but they should at least be able to understand some of it and make some sense of it, and trying to prove all arguments with just one single example is not going to hold up.

Some people say that once what disease Chinese medicine did not look good, Western medicine at a glance, it shows that Chinese medicine is not useful Western medicine is useful, and there are people who say that an example in turn proves that Chinese medicine is useful Western medicine does not, this is simply nonsense, the argument does not hold water.

It's like when you meet your mom on the street, you call out to her, and she ignores you, does that prove that it's not your mom or that you're not your mom's biological mother? Conversely, if you meet a dog on the street and you call out to her curiously and she responds, does that prove that the dog is your mom? Obviously it doesn't.

Argumentation is about good evidence, a rational process, impulsiveness makes no sense ......

I'm talking about a logical process. Those who make sense when they have sense, and those who make a hard line or set right or wrong based on feelings when they don't have sense, are actually afraid or can't argue, and can only label hysterically.

There is a hierarchy of issues, there is right and wrong in the exploration of the progress of things, the same is true for any discipline, so the right and wrong in the period between, the authenticity is useful for the development of the discipline, this is not a reason to make a judgment on the whole thing, for example, geocentricity and heliocentricity in astronomy, which one is right? Whichever is right or wrong, does it prove that astronomy is wrong?

I have been teaching western medicine internal medicine at the university for 14 years, and in my clinical work, I use Chinese medicine to use Chinese medicine, and western medicine to use western medicine, as long as I can help patients to solve their pain. Many of the patients I have treated have been improved by using Chinese medicine, so it is really puzzling who says that Chinese medicine is ineffective.

Nonetheless, it must be understood that this does not mean that Chinese medicine is effective everywhere and has special effects everywhere. If this is the only way to prove that Chinese medicine works, then it is deliberately making things difficult. This is because Western medicine cannot do the same.

Throughout, this is very much like our national development process, many foreign admirers think that the West is right about everything and our own culture and cognition is wrong about everything, but in one historical practice, this false cognition has been hit in the face again and again, but those foreign admirers are still dead set against admitting it.

The same goes for Chinese medicine, which is considered by many people as not working because it is domestically produced. These people do not understand the wisdom of the ancient Chinese people, and they do not understand the greatness of the ancient people who created the culture and medicine of their time in the ancient times when productivity and technology were extremely low, and they prefer to belittle the past with today's perspectives.

Chinese medicine or Western medicine, are human cognition, inevitably have limitations, compared to the disease of the unrestricted, human cognition is still very shallow, only to continue to broaden the cognitive horizons can help us to progress, and just out of ignorance of the prejudice of the endless degradation and elevation of either side is the loss of the entire human cognition.

Compared to black Chinese medicine practitioners, there are others who are superstitious about Chinese medicine practitioners and indiscriminately touting them, which in fact does no good, but on the contrary, invites ridicule. There is nothing wrong with generously bringing out the problems for study, criticizing that some of the problems are not justified while some are also justified and may just need to be improved, and working together to find a way out.

I do not agree that I will only use the language of Chinese medicine to explain and debate the issue, the reason is very simple, to use the public language to tell the truth that everyone can understand, if always talking to themselves, nor is it the industry of people troubled by the inability to understand, it will be perceived as unreasonable. And if you simply will not use the public language to tell their own professional things, that in the discussion of the problem really can not contribute too much, only dry anxious to make no effort. You have a belly full of flowers, others do not understand, it is really in vain.

That is why I hope that Chinese medicine practitioners participating in the discussion will learn more about how to discuss the issues, and those who are not in the industry will objectively understand some of them, so that we can discuss the issues in a more meaningful way.

I hope that people who express dissenting opinions can better read the whole article, if that little bit of patience are not, do not even understand what you want to oppose, based on feelings alone without reasoning that is meaningless, it will appear to be very illogical ......[face cover][face cover][face cover][face cover][face cover]

As an example, the car booster is broken, hired two mechanics one called Chinese medicine and one called Western medicine, Western medicine said the booster can drive the same way, Chinese medicine said I try to fix it for you, Western medicine said I can't see where the booster is outside, and wrote a paper to prove that the booster can be removed to drive, and my technology is internationally recognized, you have to write a paper to fix it after double-blind experiments have to have the data, otherwise it's not scientific; Chinese medicine said I don't care whether I can see it or not! There are also write no paper data international recognition, but I have experience in repair, know that there is a possibility of repair. Removing the power assist is able to drive, but what about the driving experience?

To get to the root of it, it's a matter of discourse!

The eighth chapter of the Yellow Emperor's Classic of Internal Medicine - Suwen, the Secret of the Spiritual Orchid, begins with the words.

" Huangdi asked: I would like to hear the twelve organs of the phase of the make, the noble and lowly how?

Qibo said: "I'm not sure if I'm asking. Please speak. The heart, the official of the monarch, the gods are out. Lung, the officer of the phase of the Fu, the rule of section out of it. Liver, the general's official, planning and thinking out. The gallbladder is the official of neutrality and judgment. The danzhong is the official of ministers and envoys, and joy and happiness come out. The spleen and stomach are the officials of the granary, and the five flavors come out. The large intestine is the official of transmission and changes. The small intestine is the official for receiving prosperity, and it produces substances. The Kidney is the official of strength and skill. The San Jiao is the official for determining the ditch, and the watercourses come out. The bladder, the state of the official, fluid hidden, gas can be out. Where these twelve officials, shall not be lost."

See clearly, this is the explanation of the term "twelve organs" used in Chinese medicine.

This is the "proper interpretation" of the twelve organs, if you want to get to the root of the problem!

Now it's turned things upside down. Western medicine came from the East and borrowed the terminology of Chinese medicine. Now some people are making trouble, as if they want to put the "little three" correct, take over the magpie's nest, take over the terminology of Chinese medicine, occupy the right to speak in Chinese medicine, and then come back to ostracize the Chinese medicine practitioners? I do not know that there is still the word "shame" in the world.

Get this straight, if you really want to take the term, the word is TCM!

For those who want to use this as a means of attacking Chinese medicine practitioners, I am sorry, but let's re-invent the word, and phonetic translation is fine. Chinese medicine words, naturally, the interpretation of Chinese medicine shall prevail. The original source should be clarified so that there will be no disagreement!

So, since you think it's okay to cut the spleen in Western medicine, that's simple, try it. You cut the spleen organ of a Western doctor and say things according to the Western interpretation, which has nothing to do with Chinese medicine, so don't use it to find trouble with Chinese medicine!

There is not an exact one-to-one correspondence between the terminology of Chinese medicine and Western medicine.

The kidney in Western medicine refers to a single organ, while the kidney in Chinese medicine refers to the designation of the system (different from the nine systems of the human body divided by Western anatomy) that presides over and regulates the function of water metabolism, mainly the kidney (the kidney is, of course, the most important organ in this system).

The theory of Chinese medicine is centered on dialectical unity, saying that the kidney is said to be the whole of this system, which can not be explained by the logic of Western medicine taken out separately.

Chinese medicine compares the spleen to a transport organ and immune system. In Western medicine, it is true that the spleen can live even if it is cut off. It is like a car, there is an oil filter, take off the filter to a straight through, the car still go, but can not guarantee that the car go process on the way to cease fire, stop.

This is an advancement and a limitation of modern medicine's understanding of the human body. When a spleen is removed, it has no effect on life or health for the time being, so surgeons see a large spleen and cut it. Cut more, and now surgeons know that they can't just cut it! Know the reasons? First, the spleen will not be enlarged for no reason, is a clinical manifestation of disease elsewhere in the body, cut the spleen (except for rare cases of splenic trauma broken hemorrhage) has no significance in the treatment of the disease, the original disease is still in the, and did not get rid of. Secondly, the spleen is an important immune organ, and the probability of the patient developing an outbreak of bacterial lung infection increases significantly after spleen cutting. Therefore, with the exception of trauma, spleen removal is done only after the internist has first consulted and the internist has agreed to operate, as in the case of congenital hemolytic anemia disease. Except for life-saving injuries, other diseases casually cut the spleen, beware of lawsuits.

Humans are constantly learning more about themselves. A static autopsy reveals that the spleen has no role, and with dynamic and growing awareness, other important functions of the spleen are discovered. God or nature made man, there is no excess, the excess itself will atrophy and digest. As the ancients said, the body's hair comes from the parents and cannot be easily destroyed. Makes sense.

Because from a certain point of view, the "five organs" of Chinese medicine and the "five organs" of modern medicine have the same name, but they are not the same thing. ......

However, Immortal must affirm here that this theory is only a family of opinions of Yun Tieqiao, a Chinese medicine practitioner of the Republic of China! It is not an ancient text!

Moreover, Yun Tieqiao was a half-way Chinese medicine practitioner, even in the Republic of China period, Yun Tieqiao could hardly be ranked among the "masters of Chinese medicine". ......

By heart, Immortal has been interested in Chinese medicine and metaphysics since he was a child, and he dare not boast of reading and understanding them, but he especially likes to read the Huangdi Neijing, the I Ching, and other classics of national science.

But to be honest, at least some of them, if read with an objective mind, may not increase the awe.

The "spleen" mentioned by the questioner belongs to the earth in the "five viscera" of Chinese medicine, and is an important organ of transportation.

Those who are familiar with the theory of the Five Elements should know the importance of "earth" in the Five Elements. "Since the spleen corresponds to earth, the importance of this organ is self-evident.

Frankly speaking, I do not dare to "respect and agree" with Yun Tieqiao's theories in many places, so I dare not say whether the "spleen" of Chinese medicine and the "spleen" of modern anatomy are one and the same thing.

Good, this is a good question, I often in the clinical evidence to patients to clarify this issue, try to avoid misleading patients. The spleen in Chinese medicine and the spleen in modern medicine have different names and concepts and different connotations and should not be confused. The spleen is an integral part of the five organs, but it is an imaginary organ, and the function of the spleen in modern medicine is quite different. The other four organs have the same name and similar functions as in modern medicine. In Chinese medicine, the main function of the spleen is digestion and absorption; the main function of the spleen is blood control, which is the function of the cardiovascular system; thoughts hurt the spleen, which affects the function of the nervous system, and so on. Comprehensively speaking, the spleen set by the ancients, including a number of human systems and part of the brain's function, dominates the operation of human life. Therefore, it is said that the spleen is the foundation of the latter day, the spleen is healthy; the spleen is weak, the body is weak. The spleen of modern medicine is an accessory organ of the digestive system, which provides a kind of digestive enzyme for digestion, and it can digest without enzyme, but it only affects the quality of digestion, and it does not have much effect on human life, and some digestive enzymes can be supplemented by medicines. Therefore, if the spleen has a major dysfunction, modern medicine can remove it with surgery, which has little effect on human health. This is my understanding, and I welcome any criticism or correction.

I have seen 3 cases of people who had their spleens cut off by western medicine. The people were alive, but not in good health; they slowly ate less, their bodies slowly lost weight, and their heights slowly became shorter.

Chinese medicine has an understanding of the human internal organ system based on Chinese medicine theory, and Western medicine has an understanding of the human internal organs based on human anatomy.

Chinese medicine theory categorizes internal organs into five systems according to their functions, namely lungs, liver, kidneys, heart, spleen, corresponding to gold, wood, water, fire and earth. They have their own independent functions as well as mechanisms that synergistically influence each other, which are relatively well recognized in TCM theory.

There are many more organs in the anatomical sense, but the functions of the various parts and the mechanisms by which they work together are not yet well developed. For example, the anatomy of the stomach, large and small intestines, spleen, pancreas, gallbladder, etc., constitute a digestive system. The heart, blood vessels and so on constitute the circulatory system, the spine, nerves, brain and so on constitute the nervous system and so on.

So the spleen in TCM refers to a functional system, not an organ in the anatomical sense. You can approximate the spleen in Chinese medicine as the digestive system in Western medicine, but it would be a donkey's errand to think of the spleen in Chinese medicine as directly corresponding to the spleen in Western medicine.