Some people in the 50's and 60's ate pickles as vegetables or even straight salt, why weren't there so many people with high blood pressure in those days?
Some people in the 50's and 60's ate pickles as vegetables or even straight salt, why weren't there so many people with high blood pressure in those days?
When it comes to combating high blood pressure, the first rule is to have less salt! Control salt intake, do not eat salty dishes, pickles and so on. Before and after the comparison, why now so much emphasis on less salt, eat hundreds of thousands of years of saltines, how to become the culprit? In the past, everyone ate like this, and there wasn't so much going on!
I don't think this is a question for one or two people, so let's talk about it today.
The nature of eating pickles or salt in the 50s and 60s
① The body needs more.
In the 1950s and 1960s, people were mainly engaged in manual labor, and sweat from manual labor would excrete a lot of salt. Sweating in the middle of labor was common, which in itself required more salt intake, so although people consumed more salt, it would not ultimately result in an excessive imbalance in the body.
② SodiumRelatively homogenous sources.The total is no more than it is now.。
In the 50's and 60's the dishes were more salty, but the total amount of dishes was very small, the food was mainly unsalted staples, a big bowl of rice with a small dish of salted vegetables was a meal, and there was very little processed food.The source of sodium is pretty much table saltThe total intake of sodium is no more than it is now.。
(iii) Sodium-potassium balance
According to national and international studies, adequate potassium balances the pressurizing effect of sodium and promotes sodium excretion.In the 1950s and 1960s, when there was a shortage of food, grains and beans, potatoes and vegetables and fruits, were the food of choice for everyone. Relatively speaking, the proportion of refined white rice and white flour eaten by everyone was relatively small, and all of these foods were rich in potassium, which ensured an adequate intake of potassium.
The modern diet and the sodium situation
Relatively, sodium requirements fall while sodium intake is excessive.
Nowadays, sweating from physical activity is minimal, and with air conditioning in the summer, sweating declines even further, reducing the pathways of salt elimination - which is reduced and needs to be reduced.
However, eat less rice, the total number of dishes than in the past increased a lot, a small bowl of rice with two or three dishes is a very homemade diet, coupled with the pursuit of taste buds, salt, monosodium glutamate (MSG), chicken essence, soy sauce, etc. (these are containing more sodium) rich in seasoning, each dish plus some of the total intake is no less than the previous dish of salted vegetables with salt.
Coupled with the popularity of pre-packaged foods such as cookies, snacks, snacks, sweetened beverages, etc., it is very easy for people to obtain, and all of these contain a lot of sodium, and even though you don't feel salty when you eat them, the total sodium intake is bound to go up dramatically compared to what it used to be. If you are so inclined, look at the sodium content in the Nutrition Facts table of packaged foods, and the number multiplied by 2.5 is the amount of salt.
For example: as shown in the figure, this is a brand of melon seeds of the nutritional composition table, the net content of 305g, each 100g contains 627mg of sodium, multiplied by 2.5, equivalent to salt 1567.5mg (about 1.5g), this bag of melons will contain salt about 4.7g.The dietary guidelines for Chinese residents recommend a daily salt intake of 6g per person.
On the other hand.The ratio of sodium to potassium, too, has changed over time: more sodium, less potassium.Nowadays, refined white rice, refined white flour is almost accounted for most of the table staple food, grains and cereals because of the rough texture, as the previous "poor life on behalf of" and other reasons, not to be "like", has been "disappeared" on most people's tables. disappeared" in most people's table. At the same time, coupled with a large number of processed meats, such as ham, luncheon meat, bacon, etc., as a new type of (non-traditional) food, because of its color, aroma and taste, and at the same time very convenient, for everyone to love, but also replaced part of the meat. However, behind the good taste, these processed meats also contain a lot of sodium. HoweverVegetable and fruit intake is not much, so potassium intake is low.Especially if one regularly eats fast food and convenience foods to get by.With lots of salt and few vegetables and no fruit, potassium intake is pitifully low. It makes sense that there would be a serious imbalance of sodium and potassium.
present .Hypertension patients are on the rise year by year, the trend of youthfulness, inseparable from our modern lifestyle, promoting it to become a great public health problem by everyone's great attention. To effectively combat hypertensionThe first thing you need to do is to adopt a diet high in potassium and low in sodium.The best known and proven dietary pattern to combat hypertension is the DASH diet.Characteristics for:
Whole grains, lots of fruits and vegetables;
Low-fat milk, healthy meat;
Nutty beans with good oil;
Low sodium and less sugar.
Effective prevention and treatment of hypertension begins with dietary modifications.
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First of all, we all know you can get high blood pressure from eating too much salt, why?
Simply put, the sodium ion concentration in our blood will make our body, especially from the heart to increase the amount of blood discharged, the same sodium ion increase will also lead to other blood vessels throughout the body to receive the blood output from the heart to increase the resistance, just imagine, a water pipe, the amount of output is large, the acceptance of the mouth is too small, then the pressure between the water pipe can not be too big?
Blood pressure also rises, which is why doctors tell patients with high blood pressure to eat less salt and have a lighter taste, but of course some people's bodies are able to regulate this (these people have a lower sensitivity of blood vessels to salt).
Here we mainly talk about the salty food in the 50's and 60's and why you still don't have high blood pressure.

In the 50s and 60s there wasn't enough rich food for us to choose from, and that generation would pickle seasonal vegetables that could be eaten for a long time, which is, to put it mildly, one of the survival skills. In those days people ate a lot of salt and not many people got high blood pressure, why is that?
One convenience has to do with the number of people attending the clinic, and the other has a lot to do with our lifestyles!
The number of people attending the clinic means that people in that era in the past would not have regular checkups to check their health like they do now, and basically wouldn't go to the hospital if they could stand it. So, there may be people with high blood pressure, but we don't know it. Now, in addition to the increased awareness of medical checkups, we will actively go to the hospital for checkups for a slight headache, at least the number of patients with high blood pressure is far greater than in the past.
Here also want to say a few more words, a lot of people think that people are now sick with a variety of, in fact, with the hospital more and more refined, more and more clear sub-specialties, most of the previous to see a doctor only divided into internal medicine and surgery, and now the second level of hospitals light internal medicine is divided into more than a dozen departments for the naming of the disease is also more and more carefully, so that we feel that now more and more types of hospitals sick, people are sick of what kind of have, for example, before we For example, in the past, we went to see a doctor because of stomach pain, the doctor may only write an abdominal pain on the medical record, but not now, the requirements of the cause must be written in the cause of the diagnosis of chronic gastritis, acute enteritis, etc., coupled with the rapid discovery of medical technology, in the past, a lot of the disease can not be found, can now find the cause, which is why in the past, fewer patients with hypertension, and now more patients with hypertension, a wide range of illnesses.
In addition to the above mentioned, there is another important reason for the way we live nowadays:
- 1. Daily meals:Our country's economic growth day by day, our lives are better than day, in the past no money to buy meat to eat, pickle a jar of pickles enough for a family to eat a year; now, it is, a family of three on the table have to be four dishes in a soup, meat at least two, we calculate: before eating pickles, you eat a mouthful of pickles with three mouths of steamed buns, and now, three mouths of vegetables with a mouthful of steamed buns, in fact, eating salt is not necessarily more than pickles, after all, you eat it less, and eat not salty to eat more. After all, you eat it less, and eat not salty eat more. Just like a bag of the same milk powder, you brewed 200ml very thick, once drank 50ml; now you brewed 500ml drink off 150ml, in fact, the latter into our body will be a little more milk powder, the above meal is also this reason.
- 2. Snacks are readily available:Before which have so many snacks, eat a full meal is good, now a variety of delicious snacks, since snacks can be put a long time that can not be separated from the preservatives, preservatives contain a large number of sodium ions, although there is no very salty taste, into the human body is still the same thing, elevated blood pressure, otherwise how can mummies be put so long (containing sodium ions is very high).
- 3. Manual labor is becoming less and less common:In the 1950s and 1960s, it can be said that those who can move the bricks have a serious job, no air conditioning, no sunshade, either plowing the land or pulling the soil and so on, it is common to work and sweat, and our human body's sodium is to eat as much as possible, in addition to the sodium is the sweat of the urine, too much physical labor in the body of the excess sodium are discharged, eat a little salty will be discharged from the body. And we are now, the amount of sweat compared to the previous is very little; therefore, manual laborers do not eat salty point simply no energy to work, low sodium will make us feel weak, no energy.
- 4. Life stress:We pursue a better life, get married and buy a house, our children have to go to a good school, our parents have to live in a good house, we occasionally follow the molecules, and regularly have small gatherings with friends, which does not bring us great financial pressure, and under prolonged pressure, our blood pressure will also rise.
To conclude: in the past, people ate salty food but had the ability to excrete sodium and keep their body sodium balanced, and there would be less high blood pressure; in the past, there was no awareness of going to the hospital, and the statistics would be low. Further, lifestyle changes will always cause us to eat excessive amounts of sodium on a daily basis, and more people will get high blood pressure than in the past. Lifestyle may not be easy to change, but we can control the amount of salt we use in stir-frying, increase exercise, eat light and stay away from high blood pressure!
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Poor, high blood pressure doesn't really have much to do with salt intake, it's a nutritional disease at its root.
In the 1950s and 1960s, when my mom and dad were born, according to my dad, they didn't even have enough to eat, and they ate dried groundnuts and pakgu (food made from groundnut leaves) all day long, and even ate leaves during the lean years. White flour is not eaten at all, only on New Year's Day can eat a white flour dumpling. At that time, eating pickles was really a luxury. When the food to eat is also true, because the table in addition to the staple food is pickles.
But why is it that with what seems to be a lot of salt intake, high blood pressure is rare instead?
First of all, I guess there was very little mention of high blood pressure in those days. Lack of medicine, where there are these modern terms, sick to the village doctor randomly prescribed some medicine, no matter what the disease first put on anti-inflammatory drugs, painkillers, measuring blood pressure? I guess many places don't have this instrument. All some people even if the blood pressure is high also do not know, a small disease, does not hinder the work well. And now, there are old people's families, almost every family has a sphygmomanometer situation, something to take out a blood pressure, frequent measurements, nothing is also measured out of something.
Secondly, in fact, high blood pressure is only a symptomatic manifestation, and eat more salt is only one of the table cause of inducing high blood pressure, and the real high blood pressure is due to a lot of factors, such as mental stress, smoking and drinking, overeating caused by high blood viscosity, blood eutrophication and so on. These factors are more concentrated in modern society. In the past, life was relatively simple, eating monotonous, not too much stress, and not so good conditions to consume so much fat and so on, cardiovascular problems of course, less.
As urbanization advances, life gets better and people are more mentally stressed, high blood pressure will become more and more frequent, and like depression and other mental illnesses, it's kind of a byproduct of modernization.
The health of every individual is actually closely related to the times in which he lives.
For example, in the old society, countless people were malnourished during the difficult times, and some even died of starvation; nowadays, because people eat too much and too well, many "nutritional diseases" have emerged.
Let's briefly take the 50s and 60s and make a simple comparison with the current era.
1. Back then, people ate salt and pickles, but the overall intake was not really high. Because of material scarcity, a small piece of salted vegetables can eat a meal. On the contrary, nowadays, people eat out in restaurants every day, and the dishes in restaurants are often heavy in flavor and high in oil in order to pursue the taste.
2, then people's labor is more common, almost everyone can afford some physical labor, less overweight; but now people's physical labor, physical exercise is rare, sedentary people, obese people. And obesity is a clear cause of hypertension.
3, then the medical resources are not developed, people's health care awareness is not strong, so we can not talk about physical examination, timely examination and screening diseases. And now people generally have the consciousness of medical examination, high blood pressure to find out more and more high chances, home blood pressure detector into the tens of thousands of households.
Nowadays, the media information is becoming more and more developed, and the incidence of some diseases will be bombarded by overwhelming information in the media, and there is a process of deepening the impression and feeling that there are too many such patients, which is also one of the reasons.
Generally speaking, the life expectancy of people is getting higher and higher, and the level of medical care is getting more and more advanced, but the subjective efforts on health are not enough, and the objective health environment is not good, or it can be said that it is too "good".
It's not really easy to comment on which era is better if you stand in relative terms?
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In the 1950s and 1960s, materials were extremely scarce, and many people did not have enough to eat, and a mouthful of savory food was good enough. At that time, the number of people seeking medical treatment for high blood pressure was also really low. Let's analyze why.
Poor medical conditions
In the 1950s and 1960s, there was not even basic medical care, nor was there a universal medical checkup. Most people could only stay awake when they were not feeling well, or find some herbal medicines to take. That's why many hypertensive patients don't even know they have high blood pressure.
low pressure
The pace of life and work at that time was much slower, anyway, eating a big pot of planned distribution, everyone was more or less the same. The mentality is relatively calm, psychological pressure is much smaller than now. Life was also more regular, not many people stayed up late and didn't sleep. The body is subjected to less stressful pressure, high blood pressure is naturally less.
Physical activity is high
In the 1950s and 1960s, there was little mechanical equipment of any kind, and there was little transportation; even bicycles were a luxury. So most of the labor required human physical strength, and commuting and daily life were also dominated by walking and cycling. More physical activity can reduce the incidence of hypertension.
Eating a relatively healthy diet
In the 50's and 60's meat and oil were planned and not eaten openly. Even staple foods had a lot of mixed coarse grains. At the same time vegetables were eaten more often. Fat people were rare animals in those days. With such a dietary pattern, it would be difficult to get high blood pressure if you didn't have high blood pressure genetically.
life span
The incidence of hypertension increases dramatically with age. The average life expectancy in the 1950s and 1960s was in the early 60s, much shorter than today, and age-related hypertension was certainly much less common.
Eat more salt is only one of the causes of high blood pressure, modern people get high blood pressure, mainly eat too much oil too fine, eat less vegetables, less activity. To put it bluntly, high blood pressure is still caused by poor lifestyle.
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This is an interesting question, simply put why was the incidence of hypertension low in that era when salt was consumed in abundance?
As we all know, there are many reasons for the development of hypertension, is the result of a combination of factors, usually primary hypertension that the influence of environmental factors account for 60%, while genetic factors account for 40%. Now and the 1950s and 1960s genetic factors have not changed, it is very simple that the change of environmental factors, resulting in increased incidence of hypertension.
Personally, I think the reasons are as follows:
Modern society consumes no less salt than in the past
In the 50's and 60's, when economic conditions were poor, almost every family had salted vegetables for their meals, so salt intake was not small, but not much more compared to now, because although we don't eat much salt in our meals now, the vast majority of the seasonings we eat, such as snacks, soy sauce, chicken essence, MSG, etc., contain salt in the form of sodium chloride or amino acid nano.
This is why it is said that a light diet low in salt is recommended for people with high blood pressure, and the dietary guidelines for people with high blood pressure recommend an intake of less than 5g per day, where 5 is meant to include all salt consumed in seasonings, snacks, etc.
Modern society has significantly increased its intake of fats
Modern living conditions are better, what tastes good is almost always related to oil, cream, doughnuts, fried snacks, teppanyaki, etc., to taste good, you need more oil. The increased incidence of obesity is clear evidence. And excessive fat intake will lead to hyperlipidemia, hyperlipidemia long-term will damage blood vessels, resulting in increased vascular fragility, which in turn produces hypertension.
Modern society has less physical labor
Economic development has brought about the replacement of many physically demanding jobs by machines, which reduces the amount of physical activity, lowers cardiorespiratory fitness, and damages blood vessels with fat accumulation, and also causes an increase in the incidence of high blood pressure.
In addition, the increase in life expectancy is accompanied by more pronounced vascular aging and an increase in the incidence of hypertension with age.
wrap-up
Therefore, our dietary and lifestyle guidelines for hypertension now is to move closer to that time in the 1950s and 1960s, with the exception of a low-salt diet, which is the healthy lifestyle that we should pursue for people with hypertension nowadays.
Recommended healthy lifestyle for high blood pressure: low-salt and low-fat diet, more green vegetables, more physical exercise, weight loss, etc.
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This is a good question worth thinking about. Almost everyone knows that eating too much salt is prone to high blood pressure, and we are already very serious about "giving up salt", but why are we still so prone to high blood pressure? Why is it that around the 1950s, when living conditions were so bad that we ate pickles every day, there were not too many hypertensive patients?
According to Dr. Zhang, there should be several reasons for this to happen:
(1) Poor medical conditions: Given the level of medical care at that time, I am afraid that many people did not even understand what high blood pressure meant, or simply had never seen a sphygmomanometer; moreover, even if people knew that they were suffering from high blood pressure, they did not necessarily have the means to go to hospitals for consultation; in this way, how could they obtain real statistics?
2, other risk factors are less: we all know that the factors inducing high blood pressure is not only high salt diet, there are many other reasons, such as smoking and drinking, high sugar and high fat diet, etc., with the standard of living at that time, to be able to often enjoy to smoke, wine, desserts or big fish and meat is not much, and, simple high salt diet does not necessarily induce high blood pressure, the disease is in fact in the combination of a variety of disease-causing factors The disease actually arises under the combined effect of a number of causative factors;
3, labor intensity: then people in order to live with the running around labor pain, every day in the high intensity of labor, and a lot of activities also means that sweating will be more, although every day will consume a lot of salt, but most of them will be excreted with these sweats; in addition, a lot of activities will consume more calories, so that people rarely appear to be over-nutritional, so that we stay away from obesity, etc. High-risk factors;
It is worth saying that among the causes of hypertension in modern people, salt accounts for a smaller and smaller proportion, after all, most people have a clear understanding of the dangers of a high-salt diet, and basically can do to limit the intake of salt, but other factors that induce high blood pressure does not seem to be under control, but is becoming more and more significant, for example, smoking and drinking; therefore, modern people are more prone to develop high blood pressure!
See a lot of answers, feel are brainwashed by science, I use my own personal experience to say under the high blood pressure problem, my blood pressure is usually about low pressure 100 high pressure 140, ate three years of high blood pressure antihypertensive drugs, I am not a three high patients, just high blood pressure, low lipids, low cholesterol, after taking the drug to maintain in the low-pressure 85 high-pressure 125 or so last year, because of the visit to the family to go back to the countryside of the mountains to live for close to three months, with enough antihypertensive drugs and blood pressure monitor, in the mountains to live more than 20 days, checked the blood pressure down. I brought enough antihypertensive drugs and blood pressure monitors with me, and after living in the mountains for more than twenty days, I realized that my blood pressure had dropped. The latter simply do not eat antihypertensive drugs, blood pressure has been maintained at a low pressure of 80 high pressure 110, in the mountains, mountain farming taste is still relatively heavy, salt feel more than the home to eat more points.
I immediately thought of it, high blood pressure this is because of the problem of food, mountain greens are not fertilizer, feed animals are not feed, are their own home to raise pigs, their own food, because the mountains are high and far away, want to raise pigs to get rich, sell pigs are difficult, so their own food for the pigs, because of the mountains more than a lot of green fodder, there is no need to go to run down the mountain for dozens of kilometers to buy feed.
In the past, there are agricultural stations to tutor pig technology, farmers said that the use of feed pigs grow twice as fast as the farm green feed pigs, but after killing the pig, the pig's moisture is very large, subcutaneous membrane tissue is water, made into bacon is not much heavier than the green feed raised pigs, said that the reasoning is clear, eat feed pigs grow unhealthy moisture, and we eat the city people eat the same fertilizer vegetables, eat the feeling that it is also to maintain the The state of life, but the San Jiao system of water and moisture is serious, fertilizer ah! Nitrogen are accumulated in the body, usually rely on exercise sweating these excess water and moisture out, otherwise oppression of the vascular circulatory system, the heart feels insufficient blood supply began to exert pressure, blood pressure naturally high, because the blood circulation can not meet the human body viscera operation needs, the human body's water and moisture is serious is an important cause of high blood pressure, the fifties and sixties of the agricultural products are rarely used in the use of pesticides and chemical fertilizers, although the yield is low, but the people ate Very healthy, now the agricultural products are relying on pesticides and fertilizers, including high-yield rice, don't look at the acres of production, cooking rice and not long rice, just add a little bit of water, unlike the seventies of rice, you can add two-thirds of the water, cook a pot of rice. Unhealthy food is the main cause of all kinds of diseases, look at the hospital now, than supermarkets, shopping malls, several times more people, many large hospitals are designed to escalators, all the most popular public places is the hospital.
It is a great pity that I cannot live in the mountains for a long time, but only back to this reality of the city, the end of last year normalized blood pressure for three months, now back to high blood pressure state, the only way to continue to maintain a normal blood pressure by antihypertensive drugs.
You can't buy vegetables in the city that don't use chemical fertilizers, you can't buy meat that doesn't use feed, and the rice is high-yield rice that has lost its rice aroma from the water that is so wet and severe.
Very interesting question・_・?
First, high blood pressure is indeed related to high salt, but it is not the only cause.
Secondly, even though there was a lot of salt in those days, the dietary structure as a whole was low-fat, low-calorie and low-sugar, and all of these low-fat, low-calorie and low-sugar are good for blood pressure.
Thirdly, the standard of medical care is low, and many problems are not detected at all, or not detected in time, and whether the statistics are accurate.
It is familiar that a long-term high sodium and low potassium diet can cause hypertension, so it is important to recommend a low sodium and high potassium diet. People who consume a lot of salt are significantly more likely to develop hypertension than patients who consume less salt, and high sodium diets are a major cause of hypertension in humans;
Surveys have shown that an increase in daily sodium intake from 20mmol to 200mmol can cause a significant increase in blood pressure. Sodium salt is not only table salt, but also includes soy sauce, salted vegetables, soy sauce tofu and so on. In addition to salt intake will lead to increased blood pressure, high oil, high fat, high sugar indirectly can cause blood pressure.
Diet and hypertension are closely related and can be artificially controlled, but diet is a long term thing, and it is important to cultivate the habit of low-salt, low-fat and low-sugar diets in children from an early age, rather than growing up and having problems before you think of changing, when this taste is hard to change.
So cultivate a low-salt diet from an early age and eat plenty of vegetables and fruits and other foods high in potassium.
In addition to high salt, high blood pressure has been linked to smoking and drinking, physical inactivity, stress, heredity, obesity, and diets high in oils, sugars, and fats, among other factors.
Finally, a statistic.
Average life expectancy in the 1950s: 57 years.
The average life expectancy in our country is now 77 years.
Can it be said that hypertension is conducive to increased longevity when the prevalence of hypertension is higher, but the average life expectancy has apparently increased as well?
Of course you can't, many issues need to be assessed in a holistic manner rather than just seeing a point!
High salt is only one cause of high blood pressure, not the only one.
That's a good question, and Dr. Zhang is here to tell you a little bit about it.
In the 1950s in China, the people's way of life was very different from now, for example, at that time, people had more physical labor and did not have so many delicacies as they do now, and what they often ate was salted vegetables, and some of them even ate salt grains. So why were so many hypertensive patients not found at that time as they are now? I personally think that there are two reasons.
1. Poor sanitation
In the 1950s, most of the people in China were still in the rural areas, where the sanitary conditions were very poor and many health centers did not have sphygmomanometers for measuring blood pressure. The popularization of sphygmomanometers in China came after the reform and opening up of China in the 1980s, and especially in the 1990s, when the economic conditions became better. In the 1950s, most people did not even have a sphygmomanometer, so how to diagnose hypertension? It was impossible to talk about it.
2. Lifestyles were healthier then than now
It's possible that people back then ate more salty food than they do now, but their salt intake wasn't necessarily higher than it is now, and salt is involved in the vast majority of small food items nowadays, you just don't notice it. It's possible that people eat a wider variety of foods now, and that their overall salt intake is higher than it used to be.
At the same time, it should be noted that in China in the 1950s, most people were manual laborers. The daily physical activities they engaged in were much more than today, and the amount of food they consumed was not as much as it is now. In layman's terms, there were no risk factors other than eating more salted vegetables, and in this way blood pressure could not be high.
These are my perceptions on the subject and I hope they help you.
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