Hello, I am glad to answer your question. Ginseng spleen pill and ginseng lingbaijutsu san are both spleen pills, drug composition and efficacy is relatively close to the role of the two drugs are based on the formula is the four gentleman soup, the drug composition is similar to the general do not advocate eating together, because the drug overlap more, for example, ginseng ling and other two drugs in the two drugs, overlap of the drug is easy to increase the burden on the gastrointestinal, for the elderly and children have a certain degree of risk. Then, on the contrary, ginseng to strengthen the spleen and ginseng and atractylodes macrocephala grouping characteristics, if the disease requires, in special circumstances can be used together, because the two drugs, although both can strengthen the spleen and qi, but the main treatment of the disease have their own bias. When the spleen and stomach are weak and the symptoms are more numerous, combining them can be considered if a medical professional is consulted. Next I will talk about their differences.

★ Ginseng and Atractylodes focus on strengthening the spleen and stopping diarrhea

• Spleen and stomach to digest diet and water, Chinese medicine says "spleen main transportation", spleen and stomach strong diet can be transformed into qi and blood for the body to use, water can be formed to maintain the body's metabolism, spleen and stomach weakness, diet and water can not be transported, water and dietary stagnation often lead to abdominal distension, loss of appetite, stagnation of water and liquid often lead to loose stools, the most prominent performance The most prominent manifestation is bloating after meals, and wanting to go to the toilet after eating, a symptom that is typical of diarrhea with spleen deficiency. In addition, the weak spleen and stomach of the crowd, due to insufficient sources of qi and blood often lead to yellowish color, muscle flaccidity, fatigue, shortness of breath, pale tongue and weak pulse.

• In the Song Dynasty, the official pharmacy bureau formulated a book "Taiping Huimin Hejiao Bureaus Fang", which included ginseng, ling and atractylodes, to strengthen the spleen and benefit the qi and wake up the spleen and dampness as the principle of combining, such as ginseng, ling, atractylodes, wai shan, jianlian, as well as waking up the spleen and dampness of chen and yangchunsha, will be these drugs are fried yellow and fried incense and then into the medicine to make the loose, because after frying it can be easily absorbed by the human body, the water frying and drying enhances the effect of the strengthening of the spleen and dampness, so that the effect of antidiarrhea It can enhance the effect of stopping diarrhea, and the strong aroma is more into the spleen and stomach, which has the effect of appetizing and feeding.

Ginseng strengthens the spleen, emphasizing on strengthening the spleen and tonifying the vital energy and blood.

• Weakness of the spleen and stomach has different developmental directions. Some people may have symptoms of weak spleen and stomach and diarrhea, which is due to the reduced ability of the spleen and stomach to transport food and water, mostly triggered by uncontrolled diet and excessive hunger and satiety, while others may have weak spleen and stomach and malabsorption of nutrients, and qi and blood deficiencies, which are mostly caused by excessive thinking or emotional disorders.
• Spleen deficiency and qi and blood insufficiency in addition to the symptoms of weak spleen and stomach with little food and diarrhea, but also due to qi and blood insufficiency of internal organs to lose nutrients and palpitations, dizziness, insomnia and excessive dreaming, fatigue and other manifestations of this time the treatment lies in the strengthening of the spleen and stomach, replenish qi and blood to eliminate spleen deficiency secondary to qi and blood deficiency in many of the symptoms of the disease response.
• Ginseng for Strengthening the Spleen is similar to Ginseng for Returning the Spleen in formula, with only the difference of Huai Shan, the core of the formula is still the Four Gentlemen, which strengthens the Spleen and benefits the qi, and at the same time adds products to nourish Blood and tranquilize the mind, such as Quan Gui and Sour Zao Zaos. This formula highlights the effects of strengthening the spleen and Qi, nourishing Blood and tranquilizing the mind. Ginseng strengthens the spleen when there is deficiency of the spleen with little food and loose stools accompanied by palpitation and insomnia.

summarize

If it is weak spleen and stomach with little food and abdominal distension, the two medicines can choose one of them and need not be used at the same time. If diarrhea with spleen deficiency is the main cause, refer to Ginseng and Atractylodes Macrocephalae. If the spleen and blood deficiency palpitations and insomnia are the main deficiency, ginseng is recommended to strengthen the spleen, if the symptoms of spleen deficiency are complex, consult a professional Chinese medicine practitioner to give guidance, and if necessary, use at the same time is also not bad, pay attention to the use of diet during the period of light, can not be impatient, angry, depressed and hurt the body.

• Lastly, I hope my answer was helpful.
• Note: Hello, I am Chinese medicine Zhu Xuyang, the text refers to the theoretical works of Chinese medicine, combined with personal experience, pictures from the network.

The answer is yes. Why?

1. Complementary efficacy, synergistic effect: Ginseng Spleen Pill has the function of strengthening the spleen, benefiting the qi, and stomach to stop diarrhea, and is often used in the evidence of spleen and stomach disharmony, spleen and stomach weakness, and diarrhea of spleen and stomach, etc., which is manifested by reduced diet, food not being transformed, fullness of the epigastrium and abdomen, tiredness and fatigue, nausea and vomiting, abdominal pain and loose stools, and stuffy noisy epigastric syndrome. Ginseng Ling and Atractylodes Macrocephalae has the function of tonifying the spleen and stomach and benefiting the lung qi, and is often used in spleen and lung qi deficiency, spleen qi weakness and spleen deficiency and dampness, etc., which manifests itself as tiredness and fatigue, lack of energy and laziness, shortness of breath, cough and phlegm, low food intake and abdominal distension, loose stools, and white and greasy tongue coating with teeth marks. The combination of the two enhances the effect of strengthening the spleen and qi, and stopping diarrhea by seepage of dampness, especially suitable for the symptoms caused by spleen deficiency and dampness, such as low qi and laziness, fatigue, low food, loose stools, and thick and greasy tongue coating with teeth marks.

2. The composition of the ingredients of the formula does not violate the contraindications: ginseng spleen pill is composed of ginseng, fried atractylodes macrocephala, Poria, Chinese yam, Pericarpium Citri Reticulatae, wood, nutrients, roasted astragalus, angelica, fried jujube nut, Yuanzhi; ginseng and Atractylodes Macrocephala San is composed of ginseng, fried atractylodes macrocephala, Poria, Chinese yam, fried lentils, lotus, fried coix lacryma, nutrients, platycodonis, glycyrrhiza glabra. Both formulas contain the basic formula of four gentleman soup, spleen and qi of yam, white lentils; qi expectorant diarrhea Chen Pi, wood, sand, lotus seed, fried Coix Seed, etc., all drugs with the same treatment of the symptoms and the root cause, to enhance the complementary spleen and stomach, benefit the lungs, qi and stomach, dampness diarrhea, reflecting the synergistic significance of the medicines with the combination of synergistic.

In conclusion, ginseng spleen pill and ginseng baizhu san can be taken together, ginseng baizhu san focuses on treating the symptoms, ginseng spleen pill focuses on treating the root cause, reflecting the significance of treating the symptoms and the root cause at the same time.

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Can I take Ginseng Strengthening Pills with Ginseng and Atractylodes Macrocephalae and why?

Ginseng Spleen Strengthening Pill and Ginseng Polygonatum album can be taken together for a short period of time, but it is not recommended to take them together for a long period of time!

Let's take a look at the prescription ingredients for both drugs below：

I. Ginseng spleen-enhancing pills, [prescription]:

Ginseng 25g

Rhizoma Atractylodis Macrocephalae (Bran Fried) 150g

Yam 100g

Poria 50g

25g sandinin

Chen Pi 50g

Mullein 12.5g

Roasted Astragalus 100g

Angelica sinensis 50g

50g roasted sour ginseng

Yuan Zhi (Prepared) 25g

Second, ginseng-ling-white-artist powder, [prescription]:

Ginseng 100g

Atractylodes macrocephala (fried) 100g

Yam 100g

茯苓100g

50g sandin (roasted)

Roasted white flat beans (75g)

Lotus seed 50g

50 g of roasted yin yin (roasted)

桔梗50g

Licorice 100g

Analysis.

From the prescription.The two drugs share a common ingredient"Ginseng, Rhizoma Atractylodis Macrocephalae, Chinese Yam, Poria, and Sand Seed".Among other things."Ginseng, Atractylodes, Yam"These three ingredients are all deficiency tonicsPoria is a water-inducing and dampness-expelling medicine; Sand nut is a dampness-removing medicine. In Chinese medicine, whenever there is "dampness", it is related to the spleen. It seems that both medicines can treat deficiency diseases caused by spleen dampness.

Then we imagine, the same dose of two ingredients stacked and the same direction of treatment of drugs, is not good than to take a drug dose increased? And from the scientific use of drugs, in general, the same kind of drug composition of the two drugs can not be stacked dose to take. Because before the drugs are marketed, the researchers have to go through scientific and repeated clinical trials before the confirmed data are written into the drug instructions for the reference of the drug users. If we increase the dosage of medication in violation of the instructions, the efficacy of the medication will be affected, and serious adverse reactions may occur. This situation is more obvious for western medicines. For example: acetaminophen is a kind of antipyretic and analgesic, its dose is not more than 2g per day for adults, otherwise, it will cause damage to the liver. Since acetaminophen is found in many cold remedies, we should not take two cold remedies that contain this ingredient at the same time.

Ginseng spleen pill and ginseng ling bai ju san is the same reason, but these two drugs are Chinese medicine, Chinese medicine is characterized by "stability", the process of action "implicit", even if some of the improper use of medication is easy to be ignored! Another point, in the minds of the public, often still retains the Chinese medicine to eat not bad people's wrong consciousness. Coupled with some less professional personnel misleading. As a result, many times, it is a lot of details of the problem will be "hidden from view"! Ginseng spleen pill and ginseng Ling Baijutsu San two drugs taken with the problem, we carefully analyze, the two drugs in the "ginseng, Baijutsu and yam" to complement the role of the deficiency is equal to double the "complementary deficiency". And Chinese medicine has"The deficiency is not a remedy."In other words, if the "virtual" supplement is overdone, it will be too late! In addition, from the "ginseng" component alone, people who take these two medicines together for a long time may also produce headaches, dizziness, increased body temperature and other uncomfortable reactions. (Of course, short-term use is not a big problem!)

To summarize, Ginseng Strengthening Pill and Ginseng and Atractylodes Macrocephalae can be taken together for a short period of time, but it is not recommended to take them together for a long period of time!

Reference: Pharmacopoeia of the People's Republic of China, 2015 Edition, Part 1

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Don't just look at the clinical efficacy of this one for now. Let's first look at what's inside both drugs.

Ginseng Strengthening the Spleen Pill, the main ingredients are ginseng, atractylodes macrocephala, poria, Chinese yam, tangerine peel, wood sorrel, sand nuts, roasted astragalus, angelica sinensis, sour jujube seed, and farnesol.

Ginseng and Atractylodes Macrocephalae, the main ingredients are ginseng, poria, atractylodes, Chinese yam, licorice, white lentil, lotus seed, Semen Coix Seed, Semen Serratulae, Platycodonis.

See anything?

There's a little bit of duplicate medication in here oh so much!

Ginseng, Atractylodes macrocephala, Poria, Chinese yam, Sand nut. It's in both medicines. Then, it is all there to tonify Qi, strengthen the spleen and dispel dampness.

Only, relatively speaking, ginseng spleen pills, tonifying qi and regulating qi and stomach this kind of role is stronger. Ginseng and Atractylodis Macrocephalae are strong in dispelling dampness and inducing diuresis as well as protecting the lungs.

On the basis of efficacy alone, it is not recommended to take them at the same time.

There should be quite a number of people who have weak spleen and stomach, which either leads to insufficient qi and blood and mental fatigue; or weak spleen and stomach leads to heavy dampness, thick and greasy tongue coating and sticky stools. And when choosing some spleen and stomach Chinese patent medicines, people will be vague, do not know how to choose, feel the same. Often hear people say that ginseng and atractylodes granules are good, or be told that using ginseng spleen pill is appropriate. So let's talk about it todayThe difference between Ginseng Strengthening Pills and Ginseng and Atractylodes Granules, and whether they can be taken together!

The drug compositions of Ginseng Strengthening the Spleen Pill and Ginseng Ling Baijiao Granules look quite similar, and for those who don't know anything about Chinese medicine, it seems that they are both the same.

Indeed, both of themThe common medicines are five flavors: ginseng, atractylodes, poria, sand nuts and yam.What are the effects of these five herbs? They are capable ofNourishes Qi and strengthens the spleenIn other words. This means that both Ginseng Spleen Strengthening Pills and Ginseng Ling Bai Shu Granules are able to tonify Qi and strengthen the spleen.

But there are also differences between them.

Ginseng pills for strengthening the spleenIn addition to the above five herbs, there areMullein, Pericarpium Citri Reticulatae, Astragalus Membranaceus, Radix Angelicae Sinensis, Fructus Jujubae, Polygala Tenuifolia, Honey. Mucuna pruriens and Chenpi are medicines to move qi and strengthen the spleen, astragalus and angelica are medicines to tonify qi and blood, sour jujube nut and Yuanzhi are medicines to calm the heart and tranquilize the mind, and honey is a supplementary ingredient, which has the effect of tonifying the deficiency and moistening the dryness.

the reason whyGinseng spleen pill has a strong effect of tonifying qi and strengthening the spleen, and also has the ability to tonify qi and blood and reassure the mind.It is more suitable for weak spleen and stomach, or noisy stomach appearingFatigue, weakness, yellowish color, palpitation, insomnia, stuffiness in the epigastric region, undigested stools or undigested food, with pale tongue and thin white moss.etc.

Ginseng and Atractylodis Macrocephalae GranulesIn addition to the above five herbs, there arePlatycodonopsis, Lentil, Lotus Seed, Semen Coicis, LicoriceThe Chinese herb Platycodon grandiflorus is a lung-expelling and cough-relieving herb. Platycodon grandiflorus is a lung-promoting and cough-relieving medicine, lentils, lotus seeds and coix seed are spleen-healthy and dampness-relieving medicines, and licorice is mainly used to harmonize all the medicines.

the reason whyGinseng Ling Bai Zhu Granules has a relatively strong effect of strengthening the spleen and inducing dampness, and is relatively weak in tonifying qi, while it has a certain effect of relieving cough.It is a typical formula of "cultivating the earth to generate gold", which means that for those with prolonged cough and lung deficiency, the spleen and stomach may be or have been involved, and by strengthening the spleen and stomach, it can replenish the lungs and stop coughing. Therefore, Ginseng Ling and Atractylodes Granules is more suitable for people with weak spleen and stomach and more obvious dampness.Tiredness, fatigue, heaviness of the limbs, sticky stools, white and thick tongue coating, etc.; or a cough without a runny nose and no obvious coughing up of phlegm is also suitable。

So while they are similar (they tonify Qi and strengthen the spleen), they are different (one calms the mind and the other dispels dampness).

So can Ginseng Strengthening Pill and Ginseng and Atractylodis Macrocephalae Granules be used together? Of course they can.For example, some people not only have a weak spleen and stomach, but also have obvious dampness, and are indeed prone to insomnia, or insomnia caused by insufficient qi and blood, or insomnia caused by noisy and restlessness in the stomach, both of which can be treated with both Ginseng Strengthening the Spleen Pill and Ginseng Ling Baijiao Granules.

The two together can have a synergistic effect, working together to tonify Qi, strengthen the spleen, promote dampness and calm the mind.

However, it is important to note thatFor heavy dampness, it's best not to use the Ginseng Spleen Enhancement Pill.Even Ginseng Ling Bai Zhu Granules are ineffective, you can use Ping Stomach Pills because Ginseng Ling Bai Zhu Granules don't have a strong diuresis effect. Of course, if because ofIf the deficiency of qi and blood caused by the weakness of the spleen and stomach is more obvious, it is also not recommended to choose Ginseng and Atractylodis Macrocephalae GranulesYou can use Ginseng Strengthening Spleen Pills with Angelica Sinensis Blood Replenishing Granules, etc.

In conclusion.The main function of Ginseng Spleen Strengthening Pill and Ginseng Ling Bai Zhu Granules is to tonify Qi and strengthen the spleen. Tonifying Qi and blood and calming the mind is an incidental function of Ginseng Spleen Strengthening Pill, but it is not strong; inducing diuresis and relieving cough is an incidental function of Ginseng Ling Bai Zhu Granules, and it is not strong either; however, Ginseng Spleen Strengthening Pill's function of tonifying Qi and strengthening the spleen is stronger than that of Ginseng Ling Bai Zhu Granules. Therefore, for the existence of insomnia caused by weakness of the spleen and stomach or dampness in the body, it is more suitable for these two proprietary Chinese medicines.

Ginseng Strengthening the Spleen Pill, composed of ginseng, atractylodes macrocephala, poria, Chinese yam, tangerine peel, woodruff, radix et rhizoma, astragalus, sour jujube kernel, farnesol, and angelica.

There are different versions of the same name and different formulas.

Its function is to strengthen the spleen and vital energy, harmonize the stomach and stop diarrhea.

It is used for indigestion caused by weakness of the spleen and stomach, noisy in the stomach, nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain and loose stools, not thinking of food, weakness and lethargy.

Ginseng and Atractylodis Macrocephalae, composed of Lotus Seed, Job's Tears, Semen Armeniacae, Platycodonis, White Lentil, Poria, Ginseng, Atractylodis Macrocephalae, Licorice and Yam.

Effects Strengthening the spleen and vital energy, stopping diarrhea by seeping dampness.

Indications: Spleen and stomach qi deficiency with dampness, limb weakness, physical weakness, loose food, vomiting or diarrhea, chest and epigastric congestion, yellowish color, white greasy moss, weak and slow pulse.

Can I take Ginseng Strengthening Pill together with Ginseng and Atractylodes Macrocephalae?

From the drug composition of the two drugs, there is no contraindication, can be taken together. Ginseng spleen pill strengthens the spleen, strengthens the qi, harmonizes the stomach and stops diarrhea. Ginseng and Atractylodis Macrocephalae strengthens the spleen and exudes dampness. The combination of the two drugs can synergize the effect on the spleen and stomach deficiency and dampness symptoms are obvious effects.

All are non-prescription proprietary Chinese medicines for regulating the spleen and stomach, which can be taken together, but there are many proprietary Chinese medicines for regulating the spleen and stomach, which should be taken for the right condition or under the guidance of a physician or pharmacist.

Let's look at their effects separately.

Ginseng, Poria, Atractylodes Macrocephalae, Chinese yam, white lentil, lotus seed, Semen Coix lacryma, Radix et Rhizoma Alba, Platycodonopsis, Radix et Rhizoma Glycyrrhizae, has the effect of strengthening the spleen and stomach and benefiting the qi, and is used for the weakness of the spleen and stomach, tiredness and fatigue, and loose stools with scanty food. In addition to strengthening the spleen and benefiting qi, it also has the effect of inducing diuresis and swelling, and focuses on harmonizing and nourishing the stomach. Ginseng Ling Bai Zhu San is small in strength, focusing on tonifying the spleen and qi, and is calm in nature, treating the evidence of spleen deficiency and dampness. However, it should not be taken by those who have loose stools with diarrhea and a falling sensation in the anus.

Ginseng Pills for Strengthening the Spleen, composed of ginseng, atractylodes macrocephala, poria, Chinese yam, tangerine peel, angelica sinensis, astragalus, farzhi, jujube seed, wood sorrel, and sand nut, has the effect of benefiting qi and tonifying blood, strengthening the spleen and nourishing the heart and is used for qi and blood insufficiency, palpitation, insomnia, lack of energy, low food intake, yellowish color, scanty and pale menstruation, and has the effect of tranquilizing the mind and focusing on replenishment of qi and nourishment of blood to strengthen the spleen and transport the qi. Ginseng Spleen Pills are mainly used for tonification, supplemented by elimination, and the elimination and tonification work in parallel to strengthen the spleen and seep away dampness, regulate qi and eliminate the effects of food. However, it is not suitable for those who have a deficiency constitution, and will be on the deficiency fire 🔥, the body is strong and solid but not weak people should not take.

Life Road Public Health believes that ginseng spleen pill and ginseng atractylodes can be taken together, ginseng atractylodes is the treatment of spleen deficiency and dampness stagnation in the middle jiao spleen and stomach, such as the appearance of the face of white, less breath, lazy speech, low voice, long-term qi deficiency is not treated, and appeared intestinal tinnitus diarrhea, etc., can be used, ginseng atractylodes is from the Hejian Bureau of the formula is the Song Dynasty national pharmacopoeia, the role of a very good. Ginseng Healthy Spleen Pill is a formula belonging to the range of food eliminators, which can be used when long-term food accumulation has occurred and the spleen and stomach are weak, such as fullness in the stomach and abdomen, fatigue, and loose stools. When these two symptoms occur, the two formulas can be used together to treat the disease.

If there is a spleen deficiency and dampness, and if there is an accumulation of food, you can use these two formulas together. However, the Chinese medicine prescription is still evidence-based treatment, or to find a doctor of traditional Chinese medicine to see better.

Ginseng Pill for Strengthening the Spleen and Ginseng Ling Baijusan are both commonly used Chinese medicines, both are tonic agents, the former's main effect is to strengthen the spleen and qi, and stomach to stop diarrhea; the latter's main effect is to replenish qi to strengthen the spleen, and stomach to benefit the lungs.

There are no contraindications to the use of the two medicines together, and they can be taken together. However, the two drugs are based on the four gentleman soup derived from the formula of many drugs are repeated, the efficacy of the main spleen and qi, ginseng and white artemisia can also benefit the lungs and qi and phlegm, ginseng spleen pill and the stomach to stop diarrhea function is stronger. Ginseng Pills for Strengthening the Spleen is mainly composed of ginseng, atractylodes macrocephala, poria, Chinese yam, tangerine peel, wood scent, radix et rhizoma, astragalus, angelica sinensis, sour jujube seed, and Yuan Zhi, among which ginseng, atractylodes macrocephala, poria, astragalus, and Chinese yam are good for strengthening the spleen, tangerine peel, and radix et rhizoma are good for regulating the qi and stomach, wood scent is good for strengthening the spleen, eliminating food and moving qi to relieve pain, angelica sinensis nourishes and invigorates the blood, and sour jujube seed and Yuan Zhi calm down and calm down, which all together play the functions of strengthening the spleen and benefiting the qi, as well as stopping diarrhea. It is suitable for treating deficiency of Qi in the spleen and stomach, such as lack of appetite, nausea and vomiting, fullness in the epigastrium and abdomen, tiredness and fatigue, abdominal distension and loose stools. Ginseng, Atractylodes Macrocephalae is composed of lentil, Chinese yam, tendon meat, Chinese tangerine root, Semen Coicis, and Semen Sandal, in which Codonopsis, Atractylodes Macrocephalae, Poria, and Radix et Rhizoma Glycyrrhizae tonify the spleen, harmonize and season the middle, Chinese yam, lentil, tendon meat, and Semen Coicis tonify the spleen and strengthen the intestines, and seep out dampness and stop diarrhea, Chinese tangerine root carries medicine upward to expel phlegm and stop cough, and Semen Sandal harmonizes the stomach and regulates the qi, the combination of all the medicines strengthens the spleen and nourishes the stomach, regulates qi and removes phlegm, and it is suitable for those with The combination of these herbs enhances the functions of strengthening the spleen, nourishing the stomach, regulating qi and resolving phlegm, and is suitable for treating symptoms such as low qi and powerlessness due to qi deficiency of the lung, dietary inactivity, diarrhea or concomitant cough and phlegm.

Ginseng Strengthening the Spleen Pill is mainly for tonifying Qi and strengthening the spleen, while Ginseng Ling Bai Zhu San is mainly for tonifying Qi, strengthening the spleen and inducing dampness, and both of them are similar in efficacy. Ginseng Pill for Strengthening the Spleen has added Angelica sinensis to nourish blood and replenish blood, jujube nut to nourish the heart and calm the mind, and Yuan Zhi to help the heart Yang and benefit the heart qi, so that the effect of nourishing blood and calming the mind has been strengthened, and it is more suitable for the deficiency of both the heart and the spleen, for example, for people who have a bad sleep. 参苓白术散加入了茯苓渗淡利湿、白术健脾运湿、薏苡仁健脾利湿，全方祛湿的作用得到加强，更适合用来健脾利湿，比如痰湿重的人就可以服用。 It is recommended that the two drugs should not be taken together, and should be taken under the guidance of a doctor. Meanwhile, during the period of taking the medicine, we should pay attention to light diet, regular work and rest, and avoid exertion.