Is artemisinin a Chinese medicine, or a western medicine? Tu Youyouyou was extracted with ether at low temperature, do you think the ancients could have refined artemisinin?
Judging from the research results of artemisinin, it is actually a product of the combination of Chinese and Western medicine. Precisely speaking, the method of artemisinin extraction is the method of Western medicine, but the inspiration as well as the theory of its production comes from Chinese medicine, and the raw material of the drug used is also Artemisia annua, which is used in Chinese medicine. At the same time, the reason why Tu Youyou was able to discover and refine artemisinin was also due to her being influenced by the medical research of the ancients. Therefore, the production of artemisinin is a medical research result that is refined under the influence and inspiration of the theory and thought of traditional Chinese medicine and the application of scientific and technological methods of western medicine.
From a narrow point of view, artemisinin with western science extracted from a single active ingredient, has been detached from the overall view of traditional Chinese medicine thinking, based on the nature of the drug flavor for the use of the principle of compounding. Therefore, Artemisinin is not a proprietary Chinese medicine in the strict sense. But from the perspective of the broader Chinese medicine point of view, everything can be medicine. Then artemisinin can also be called Chinese medicine. Only artemisinin is the active ingredient extracted by modern medical technology. It can be used as an effective supplement in the process of Chinese medicine treatment of disease. Serve the public health.
With the development of Chinese medicine in the ancient times of the social state, there was no science and technology, but the ancients have their own wisdom of the ancients, although not to modern science to do the extraction of artemisinin. But the use of the drug flavor and Chinese medicine holistic thinking, can be achieved by using the rational combination of drugs, through the ancient physical and chemical methods of Chinese medicine concoctions, the preparation of the solution to today's infectious diseases.
Chinese and Western medicine have their own historical origins in the development process, there is no need to eliminate anyone, the combination of Chinese and Western medicine as long as it can be achieved for the body of Chinese medicine, Western medicine for the use of the principle that Chinese medicine is a part of Western medicine and Chinese medicine is not contradictory to the theories and techniques, integrated in the Chinese medicine system to serve the public's health!
1. Artemisinin is practically insoluble in water, and it is impossible to obtain a sufficient pharmacological concentration of the drug according to the method of twisting the juice of the "Elbow After Preparing an Emergency Formula".
2. Artemisinin decomposes at more than 60 degrees Celsius, and boiled Chinese medicine is also dead.
3. And the ancients simply do not understand the use of alcohol (organic solvents) extraction to increase the concentration of artemisinin. Even assuming that aqueous solutions of saturated artemisinin are obtained directly by the juice extraction method, in order to consume enough artemisinin on a daily basis, one would have to drink more than 20 liters of saturated aqueous solutions of artemisinin, and 100% absorption would be required. Just thinking about it shows that this is not possible.
4. After artemisinin enters the human body, the half-life is only 4-8 hours, and the use of artemisinin alone in the treatment of malaria makes the disease very easy to flare up. As early as the end of the last century, the WHO banned the use of artemisinin alone to treat malaria. This also proves that the ancients did not use artemisinin to treat malaria, because assuming that the ancients would have used artemisinin, then the malaria parasite would have been resistant to the drug, and artemisinin would have been ineffective.
5. Ancient Chinese medicine often emphasizes that the medicinal artemisia is fragrant artemisia, and the extraction of artemisinin artemisia is stinking artemisia, stinking artemisia is generally only used for fumigation to drive mosquitoes.
6. According to the original Tu Yo Yo's statement, it is not the "Elbow after the preparation of the emergency prescription" inspired the discovery of artemisinin, but by the encouragement of Chairman Mao's quotes, has been insisting on not giving up before the discovery of artemisinin.
7. Tu Yo Yo in order to prove that Artemisia annua is Artemisia annua, but also specially wrote a paper, "proving" that Artemisia annua was also called Artemisia annua. In addition, artemisinin was originally called artemisinin.
8. Tu Yo Yo said that the "Elbow after the preparation of an emergency prescription" to remind her not to high temperature, to organic solvent extraction method to extract artemisinin. In fact, the 523 project was to be "water ~ wine ~ ether" research process, there is no need to remind the "Elbow after the preparation of emergency prescription". I remember that another research group of Project 523 also used gasoline to extract artemisinin a few months later.
9. Tu yo yo research method of traditional Chinese medicine is essentially the abolition of medical experimentation, which is why in Tu yo yo get the Nobel Prize has been assessed as one of the reasons for academicians. According to the words of an old Chinese medicine practitioner who received a national special allowance: "Tu yo yo's path is the road to the extinction of Chinese medicine."
The discovery of artemisinin, did not use the yin and yang, five elements, phases of life, dialectical treatment and other Chinese medical theories, but in the scientific theory under the guidance of the scientific method of research.
10. Ge Hong, in his "Post-Elbow Emergency Formula", collects 43 partial prescriptions for the treatment of malaria, including herbs and sorcery. One of them, Artemisia annua, is very inconspicuous, appearing only once (whereas the herb "Changshan" appears 13 times), and there is no mention of how effective it is. On the contrary, those ridiculous witchcraft, Ge Hong praised its "immediate healing", "without fail".
For example: "To avoid all malaria. If you hold a rooster on this day and make a loud noise at one time, all malaria will be cured."
"Break a soybean (remove the skin), write a piece for the word 'sun' and a piece for the word 'moon', hold the 'sun' in your left hand and the 'moon' in your right. Hold the 'sun' in your left hand and the 'moon' in your right, and swallow it to heal immediately. To the day to take it, do not let people know."
Recently there are always silly Chinese medicine powder back to the post, not to win, hereby posting a divine picture, Chinese medicine powder see the picture roll. (2020.02.02)
The last two pictures, the sun a do not understand, can not read the ancient Chinese medicine fan "sigh of truth".



Judging from the research results of artemisinin, it is actually a product of the combination of Chinese and Western medicine. Precisely speaking, the method of artemisinin extraction is the method of Western medicine, but the inspiration as well as the theory of its production comes from Chinese medicine, and the raw material of the drug used is also Artemisia annua, which is used in Chinese medicine. At the same time, the reason why Tu Youyou was able to discover and refine artemisinin was also due to her being influenced by the medical research of the ancients. Therefore, the production of artemisinin is a medical research result that is refined under the influence and inspiration of the theory and thought of traditional Chinese medicine and the application of scientific and technological methods of western medicine.
From a narrow point of view, artemisinin with western science extracted from a single active ingredient, has been detached from the overall view of traditional Chinese medicine thinking, based on the nature of the drug flavor for the use of the principle of compounding. Therefore, Artemisinin is not a proprietary Chinese medicine in the strict sense. But from the perspective of the broader Chinese medicine point of view, everything can be medicine. Then artemisinin can also be called Chinese medicine. Only artemisinin is the active ingredient extracted by modern medical technology. It can be used as an effective supplement in the process of Chinese medicine treatment of disease. Serve the public health.
With the development of Chinese medicine in the ancient times of the social state, there was no science and technology, but the ancients have their own wisdom of the ancients, although not to modern science to do the extraction of artemisinin. But the use of the drug flavor and Chinese medicine holistic thinking, can be achieved by using the rational combination of drugs, through the ancient physical and chemical methods of Chinese medicine concoctions, the preparation of the solution to today's infectious diseases.
Chinese and Western medicine have their own historical origins in the process of development, there is no need to eliminate anyone, the combination of Chinese and Western medicine as long as it can be achieved for the body of Chinese medicine, Western medicine for the principle of Chinese medicine can be part of Western medicine and Chinese medicine is not contradictory to the theories and techniques, fusion of the Chinese medicine system in the service of public health.
Are you torn?
Can't the development of Chinese medicine keep pace with the times?
Nowadays, industrial technology is emerging from the West, is it not allowed to be made in China? Even if the Chinese create all the high-tech products according to the technological thinking in the future, is it necessary to label them as still following the western technological thinking?
Do you really think it's necessary?
How can you be sure that ancient Chinese inventions have never been borrowed by the West. This is something that even Westerners themselves have admitted, so why should you get your heart set on it.
In Chinese history, no Chinese medicine could effectively treat malaria, and every outbreak caused a massacre. 1693, Emperor Kangxi suffered from malaria, and all the court doctors and folk Chinese medicine practitioners were at their wits' end, and was finally cured by eating the powdered bark of the cinchona tree provided by a French missionary (this is the real traditional western medicine, and people have herbs too. The Western medicine we are talking about now actually refers to modern medicine that originated in the West). Quinine, a western medicine extracted from cinchona, entered China and became one of the most sought-after and famous medicines. When Chairman Mao got malaria in the Soviet Union, he was cured by having someone go to Shanghai specifically to buy quinine.
In 2015, Tu Youyou's team won the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for discovering that artemisinin is highly effective in treating malaria. Tu Youyou claimed to have been inspired by a Chinese medical text called the "Post-elbow Emergency Formula," which triggered a frenzy in the Chinese medical community and was taken as the basis for the effectiveness of Chinese medicine. The mainstream Chinese scientific community has taken an unusually low-key attitude toward the arrival of China's first Nobel Prize in science. Because they understand that there are two hard feelings: 1, the discovery of artemisinin has almost nothing to do with Chinese medicine, there is no theory of Chinese medicine that can guide people to realize that artemisinin can cure malaria; 2, the discovery of artemisinin is the process of discovering the effectiveness of the traditional Chinese medicine of a real test, thousands of Chinese medicines are ineffective is the norm.
A spokesman for the Nobel Prize jury, in response to a Chinese reporter, emphasized in particular that the Nobel Prize was not rewarding Chinese medicine, but rather the researchers' study of a drug.
Most people only hear the name also thought that artemisinin is a traditional Chinese medicine, artemisinin is extracted from plants with a single ingredient, the structure of a clear chemical medicine, which is commonly known as Western medicine, China's Drug Administration to give it is a chemical medicine quasi-nominal (H beginning).
Ge Hong of the Eastern Jin Dynasty mentioned in "After the elbow to prepare the emergency formula" that "a grip of artemisia, with two liters of water to impregnate, winnowing the juice, as much as possible," but artemisinin is almost not allowed to be in the water, it is impossible to soak with water to achieve pharmacological concentration of artemisinin to cure malaria, and Tu Youyou is the use of ether to extract artemisinin, traditional Chinese medicine does not understand these modernized scientific methods.
The discovery process of artemisinin was a serious challenge to testing the effectiveness of traditional Chinese medicine. Artemisinin was developed more than 40 years ago by using the tactic of the sea of men, utilizing more than 500 researchers from dozens of organizations, and it took five years to sift through more than 40,000 kinds of Chinese herbs before its discovery. This shows that the numerous remedies provided by Chinese medical texts have not come in handy, so what is the difference between this and following a botanical encyclopedia to find them? From the discovery of artemisinin, some people realized that "Chinese medicine is a treasure trove that has not yet been fully developed". In the 40 years since the discovery of artemisinin, although countless scientific researchers have tried to create another miracle from Chinese herbs, they have never been able to find a second new drug that can be recognized internationally.




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Is Artemisinin a traditional Chinese medicine or a western medicine? Tu Youyouyou was extracted with ether at low temperature, do you think the ancients could have refined artemisinin?

In 2011 Chinese scientist Tu Youyou was awarded the Lasker Prize in Clinical Medicine for her discovery of a drug called Artemisinin to treat malaria. The scientist's efforts were met with cheers in China, and many people interpreted artemisinin as a traditional Chinese medicine as a result. Today I'll share some knowledge about artemisinin.
1. Is artemisinin a traditional Chinese medicine or a Western medicine?
In fact, objectively speaking, artemisinin belongs to the western medicine, it is not a traditional Chinese medicine, although it is extracted from plants, but it is a very clear structure, a single component of a western medicine. There may be a lot of people refute me that artemisinin belongs to traditional Chinese medicine since it is extracted from plants, the person who said this must not understand what is traditional Chinese medicine, most of the components of traditional Chinese medicine have many kinds, and the purity will not be so high, traditional Chinese medicine is used in the previous process, and Tu Youyou is using a new technology to obtain the artemisinin.
Speaking of which, I guess many people still don't understand, so I'd like to ask if Duffy is an herbal medicine? I guess no one said it is an herbal medicine, but it is also extracted from plants.
2. Do you think the ancients could have refined artemisinin?

Artemisinin is not extracted from Artemisia annua, but from Artemisia annua, but in order to show its relationship with traditional Chinese medicine, unified before called Artemisia annua.
Ancient people did not have the means to extract artemisinin because the process was very complicated, and there was no way to extract it at that time under that condition. The reason why Tu Youyou was able to extract artemisinin was that she used this low-temperature ether extraction technology. Before that, she found the inspiration in the "Post-elbow Preparation of Emergency Prescription", which mentioned that "Artemisia annua is a grip of two liters of water to impregnate, and then twisted and extracted the juice ......", which suggests that Artemisia annua is cannot be heated.
Also in the ancient times of our country, malaria was a very powerful infectious disease that killed many people in every epidemic, and if artemisinin could really be extracted at that time, then not so many people would have died.
Final Summary: Artemisinin is a western medicine; the ancients were unable to extract artemisinin, mainly because artemisinin needs to be extracted in a low-temperature environment, and malaria was also a disease with a high mortality rate in ancient times.
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There is no doubt that artemisinin is a chemical. This is not in dispute.
This is approved by the State Food and Drug Administration Center for Drug Evaluation of artemisinin drug specification, there is a clear statement (below), do not need to argue.
Distinguish between Chinese medicine and western medicine, mainly through the approval number to distinguish, the approval number is the drug's ID card, is the ID number, the key to distinguish between Chinese and western medicine is the middle of the letter, if the letter is Z on behalf of it is a proprietary Chinese medicine, if it is H on behalf of it is a chemical medicine.
The ancients couldn't have refined artemisinin.
The ancients could not have refined artemisinin. The reasons are as follows:
1. The ancients lacked knowledge of the composition of various substances (including herbs) at the molecular level. It is impossible to know what the composition of Artemisia annua. Not to mention whether Artemisia can cure malaria, is able to cure, the ancients also do not know what ingredients in Artemisia in the role;
2, the physical and chemical properties of artemisinin also decided the ancients could not be extracted out
Artemisinin is a colorless needle-like crystal, because of its special peroxy group, it is unstable to heat and easily decomposed by moisture, heat and reducing substances.
This property of artemisinin was not known at all to the ancients. How is it possible to extract artemisinin?
3, in fact, artemisinin is not extracted from Artemisia annua, its extracts are Artemisia annua
Based on several factors, including the basic knowledge of the ancients, the physicochemical properties of artemisinin, and the differences in extracts, it is unlikely that the ancients could have extracted artemisinin. There is no doubt about this.
Tu Youyouyou's success is the best proof of the abolition of medical testing and medicine, but also the heaviest slap in the face of traditional Chinese medicine. Tu Youyouyou collected more than 2,000 ancient formulas to cure malaria: all, part, none, effective! The discovery of artemisinin came from the Jin Dynasty Ge Hong's "After Elbow Emergency Formula", which wrote more than 20 other malaria cures, including: hold a big rooster and then shout, take a bean and cut it in half, write the sun and moon on the sun and eat the bean, grab a spider with rice and swallow it, head south and hold your breath and write the word "ghost", etc., which is obviously fabricated, and Ge Hong himself is only a Taoist priest, not a famous old Chinese medicine practitioner. Famous old Chinese medicine.
The only formula that can touch porcelain artemisinin, Artemisia annua (Artemisia annua) does not contain artemisinin, artemisinin in Artemisia annua (Artemisia odorata), and traditional Chinese medicine is almost do not use Artemisia odorata into the medicine. One step back, even if Ge Hong used the right plant, but artemisinin is easy to decompose when heat, and almost insoluble in water, Tu Youyou are using ether low-temperature extraction only to get, and the description of the ancient recipe is to drink with water juice.
--Obviously, the ancient people according to the formula is impossible to ingest sufficient amount of artemisinin to cure malaria, in other words, this formula even Ge Hong himself has not been verified, purely fictionalized by the Taoist priest. 2,000 malaria treatment of the ancient formula mentioned in a total of how many species of plants and animals? How many species of plants and animals are mentioned in the 2,000 ancient recipes for malaria? Can they be credited to traditional Chinese medicine if they are found by mistake?
Two thousand years of Chinese medicine history down the line, more than 2,000 malaria prescriptions, none of them effective. Is this not a resounding slap in the face?
This is the tip of the iceberg of the true level of Chinese medicine. You can think about it with [Western medicine treats the symptoms and Chinese medicine treats the root cause], why Chinese medicine has never had an emergency department, dentistry, burns, obstetrics and gynecology, etc. (said the holistic view of the black box theory it), why are all to be slow-acting + thousands of thousands of prescriptions + unrepeatable? Why is it always necessary to suppress the symptoms with Western medicine and then use traditional Chinese medicine to deeply regulate the root cause? What is the "essence"? Have you felt it for so many years? Why haven't the elders who drank Chinese medicine decades ago to this day adjusted the "essence"? Why do Chinese medicine practitioners threaten to intimidate people by saying "you will know when you are old" or "you will know in another ten or twenty years"? Who will not be weaker and sicker in old age than when he was young? The developed countries of Europe and America neither regulate this and that qi nor treat the root cause, so how come they have not become thin and short-lived? Speaking of departments, why is modern medicine so finely categorized, while Chinese medicine directly a few ancient books to deal with the whole department?
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