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Lee Wing passed away seventeen months after cancer treatment in the U.S. Some people say he wouldn't have died sitting at home for seventeen months without radiation or chemotherapy. What do you think?

There will always be people who say, "I have cancer, and I'm going to die with chemo, and I'm going to die without chemo, and I might even die later if I don't have chemo.

I can't find a suitable adjective to describe him for this kind of mentality for a while.

But it is clear that there must be something wrong with this mentality.


It's like saying I'll be hungry if I don't eat, and I'll be hungry if I do eat, and I might as well not eat.

Or why am I studying and working so hard? I'm going to die sooner or later. If I don't study and work hard, I may live to be 80, if I study and work hard, I may still live to be 80, so why do I study and work so hard?

I would never argue with a patient with an advanced tumor making the decision to wait to die.


As stated earlier, we are actually waiting to die from the day we are born. But no one wants to die, right?

As a matter of fact, all patients who have been found with malignant tumors, who have been found with cancer, no matter whether he is found at an early stage or at a late stage, they are all afraid of death, they are all afraid of dying, and they do not want to die so soon.

That's why fighting for a longer survival period is arguably the instinctive response of all people.

Then the pursuit of longer survival, for cancer patients, many again fear the possible side effects of chemotherapy radiation surgery.


When it comes to fighting chemotherapy, the feeling of many people is whether it will be worse than death. And commonly patients and their families have a common perception that my patient is weak, my body is weak, my body can't carry it, it can't carry it my body will be broken by the treatment, and that's what almost all patients think.

No matter how strong our docs assessed his physical condition, no matter how well we assessed his physical condition, they would think I was weak and would think my body would be broken by the chemo.

Especially patients who have already experienced the side effects of chemotherapy. They will have those various bad experiences with the tumor treatment, infinitely magnified.


But let me tell you about the treatment of tumors, which islit. pull down the east wall repair the west wall (idiom); fig. temporary expedientA tumor patient. A tumor patient, whether you have this disease or not depends on the thickness of your western wall, whether your western wall has to be demolished or not. What you want, a gentle and efficient treatment, we also want, unfortunately, no.

Often a patient will ask after a chemotherapy treatment, "I'll nurse longer before the next one, I'll nurse my body better, my body can't take so much!"

And I answered them, "When you fight, does the enemy wait until you're rested?

Having cancer, especially advanced cancer, basically means that a wall is about to break down. Once this wall is broken through, the person will die. To fight cancer is to tear down the east wall and mend the west wall. If the patient's west wall is already very thin, there is no cure. If the doctor evaluates that a cancer patient really has no way to withstand the side effects of the treatment, then this person is basically just waiting to die.

At this time many people may jump out to say that traditional medicine ah, our Chinese medicine ah, our Chinese medicine talking about conditioning, unlike your Western medicine this way not moving to cure people to come half dead.


I am here to tell you solemnly that for you to expect Chinese medicine to treat malignant tumors is tantamount to giving up treatment.

The survival you get from treating malignant tumors with Chinese medicine, the results you get, may be about the same as if you didn't use any medication, just daily nutritional support, and you regulate your diet a little bit better, and if you know about nutrition, and if you know a little bit about rehydration and all that, you may achieve pretty much the same results. It might even be better.

To really want to control the tumor and control the cancer, we have to rely on our modern comprehensive oncology treatment. At present, the main ones are surgery, radiotherapy, chemotherapy, and some targeted therapies.


It has been said that Wing Lee might have lived more than 17 months without chemotherapy. To say this is to grossly underestimate the ability of our clinicians to assess a patient's physiologic condition.

Can a patient be treated with chemotherapy or radiotherapy? Whether or not they can have surgery is something that we have strict clinical criteria for evaluating.

The sole purpose of the chemotherapy and the radiotherapy and the surgery that we give to our patients is to give them a longer survival. It's to give the patient a longer life and a better quality of life.


If our doctor evaluates the current condition of the patient and says that after receiving chemotherapy or surgery or radiotherapy, the survival period may not be prolonged or may even be shortened, then this kind of treatment is a failure, and this kind of failure, I would even say, can be the subject of a lawsuit. No doctor would be so stupid as to allow himself or herself to be subjected to a lawsuit, so that a person who obviously cannot undergo chemotherapy or radiotherapy, and who obviously will live a shorter life after undergoing chemotherapy or radiotherapy, will be subjected to these treatments.

And our research methods in modern medicine are about randomized clinical controlled trials.


We must have an objective basis to prove that the patient in this condition, in this type of condition, in this type of tumor, that he will be able to get benefit from this regimen before we will write this regimen into the guideline. And our objective basis includes not only our success cases, but also our failure cases with this method, and all of these should be used as our basis.


That is to say, our basis comes not only from the living people who are finally cured, but also from the dead. Our data will let the dead speak for themselves.


Then we look at the so-called miracle doctors. Are their words worth listening to? All they report is one success story after another, when do we see any real reports from them, documenting their cases of bad endings as well?

If you do not believe that you can go to check the professional clinical research literature, both domestic and foreign, about malignant tumors treatment options related to clinical controlled studies, you look at their research data is not to be in the observation period, not only to record the number of months this patient lived, but also how many patients in a few months when the patient died will be recorded. Even including this patient, his cause of death we will have records.


Making peace won't advance mankind anymore.

There is some truth to it, a few years ago a foreign doctor physical examination found that he was cancer, but also their own decision not to treat, resigned, and after that peace of mind and calm life, although I do not know how long to live, but, I believe that he is quiet and calm, the quality of life should be pretty good.



Of course, the survival period is different for different cancers, and the reality of pain and stress faced is different. We do not have the right to comment on the patient's own choices, the specific treatment program is recommended or based on different types of disease and the attending physician to discuss and make a choice.

Cancer is more age-related and the incidence of cancer increases with age. In terms of pathogenesis, two most central factors are needed for cancer to occur, the first is genetic mutation and the second is immune escape. At present, human beings are not able to conquer cancer, and sometimes survival with tumor is an option.

It's true that it may or may not, but the question itself doesn't really make much sense. Besides, throwing out that kind of rhetoric at this point in time is a bit out of place, personally.
With the progress of basic medical research, modern medicine's understanding of malignant tumors is constantly deepening, and the corresponding treatment means are also being improved. When malignant tumors are detected, how to choose specific treatment means should take into account the pathological type and stage of the tumor, the patient's general condition, tolerance to specific treatment and some other special factors, etc.
For example, for many malignant tumors that are common in clinical practice, if they are detected at an early stage, most of them are recommended to be treated radically by surgery to improve the prognosis. However, if the patient's general condition is poor and is complicated by a variety of underlying diseases, the chances of various serious postoperative complications will be greatly increased, and it is possible that the patient will die due to some serious complications. These are all probability events based on statistics, and all we can say before surgery is that, based on a large sample of studies, there is a greater chance of improving the prognosis by doing the surgery, but at the same time, there are all sorts of risks, and all things considered, the advantages of doing the surgery outweigh the disadvantages. At the same time, there will be some patients and their families who are fully aware of the huge risks of surgery and still choose to fight, and the results are both good and bad.
Therefore, for the treatment of malignant tumors, the most commonly used surgery, chemotherapy, radiotherapy, indeed, in essence, are damaging to their own, but whether it is "to kill a thousand of the enemy to their own detriment" or "to kill a hundred of the enemy to their own detriment," to combine with their own specific situation, the specific analysis of the problem. The problem should be analyzed in the light of your own situation.

Lastly, I would like to thank Mr. Li Yong for the joy he once brought us.

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I think that radiotherapy sometimes doesn't completely cure cancer, and it can speed up the rate of critical illness. Without radiotherapy, Lee Wing might not have been able to go through his life for seventeen months.

My neighbor, Uncle Wang, he had liver cancer, after diagnosis he was not hospitalized and did not take those western medicines, he got Chinese medicine from an old Chinese doctor, now I can still remember him, he looked bad, black, his face had no luster, and he was lethargic, he lived for several years after taking the Chinese medicine.

Qin is my neighbor, he also has liver cancer, he was not hospitalized after diagnosis, he has been taking Chinese medicine to control his condition, I remember his son was sick when he was not married, he passed away last spring, his grandson must be 4 or 5 years old?

I used to read in a book about a writer in Dalian who gave up treatment himself after being diagnosed and went to the countryside, wanting to walk quietly through his life.

To the countryside, he raised a dog, planted their own vegetables, eat every day to eat grains and cereals made of rice, nothing to take the dog out to play, so after less than a year, he felt that his body did not have terrible symptoms, went back to do a medical checkup, all the indicators were miraculously back to normal.

I don't think there's anything to be afraid of with cancer, it's all the result of too much mental stress, lack of regularity in life, unbalanced diet and nutrition, which leads to a weakening of the immune system.

Make your life easier, sleep better, have a regular routine, relax mentally, and your health is sure to be just around the corner.

I am a nurse, and I used to be a family member of a cancer patient. In fact, the survival time of conservative cancer treatment is relatively longer than that of surgery, radiotherapy and other treatments, but it is also based on the patient's own condition. My grandfather was diagnosed with advanced kidney cancer in 15 years. At that time, the doctor suggested surgery, but after further examination, it was found that the cancer cells had spread to the whole body, so it was impossible to carry out surgery, and radiotherapy couldn't be done, so my family went to a lot of big hospitals to find a lot of specialists with the examination report, and all the doctors said that he could only live for three months at the most when they saw the film. Grandpa miraculously lived for three years and passed away in August last year. I hope Grandpa is happy and safe in the other world.

This claim is baseless.

It is certainly possible to prolong life if one follows a formal cancer treatment program. However, in China, in addition to formal cancer treatment, patients also receive alternative and complementary therapies, such as traditional Chinese medicine, and fall for the scam artists, and go on all kinds of health supplements, and as a result, many people die prematurely, which is not the crime of the formal cancer treatment, but rather the crime of these alternative and complementary therapies and scam supplements and health supplements.

Recently JAMA Oncology published a paper from Yale School of Medicine entitled "Complementary Medicine, Refusal of Conventional Cancer Therapy, and Survival Among Patients With Curable Cancers" (Complementary Medicine, Refusal of Conventional Cancer Therapy, and Survival Among Patients With Curable Cancers). Complementary Medicine, Refusal of Conventional Cancer Therapy, and Survival Among Patients With Curable Cancers" illustrates that alternative and complementary therapies, among others, lead to the premature death of cancer patients through the survival rates of cancer patients.

The specifics of Li's treatment in the US are unclear, but I thought he made a wise choice to come to the US for treatment in order to leave the ignorance-filled cancer treatment environment in China.

Modern medicine has made continuous progress in cancer treatment, but for many cancers, modern medicine is not yet able to effectively prolong the lives of patients, and for some cancers with a high degree of malignancy, the life that can be prolonged by modern medicine is very limited, for example, advanced lung cancer, which is measured in terms of months. However, it has been proved in the past few decades that with time, many cancers will become chronic diseases.

For those terminal cancer patients who have been determined to have reached the last stage of their lives, whether or not to continue with the treatment is indeed a personal decision. Whether or not they have reached this stage is to be determined by modern medicine, not according to Zhang San Li Si, Chinese medicine practitioners who have no medical ethics in order to cheat them, or charlatans.

Personally, I respect those who do not give up on life. It was a decent and dignified curtain call for Li Yong and his family at the end of his life not to turn to monks and demons, but to insist on modern medicine to fight the disease.

There are several types of cancer, each with several types, and all with different symptoms for the same type.

My dad and my grandpa both had squamous lung cancer, same location, my dad didn't have pain or spit up blood, but was weak and thin; my grandpa spit up blood and wailed in pain. Maintained the same time, died at the same age.

My colleague's father was diagnosed with a lung tumor and got better with Chinese medicine.

My sister's great aunt's father-in-law has had lung cancer for over a decade and is sustained by Indian cancer drugs.

Classmate's brother was diagnosed with cancer, the doctor told him to go home and wait for death, he traveled to the mountains to play the world, two years, then check the tumor is small, then surgery, healing.

There are lung cancer eat lamb stewed with garlic well, there are bladder cancer eat walnuts dipped in brown sugar well, there are well found out half a month is gone, there are also after surgery recovery, most live six months to three years.

Cancer is related to genes, physical fitness, occupation, lifestyle habits, emotions & mood, environment, etc., and it really varies, some people are cured, most people are scared to death.

Life and death by fate, wealth and fortune in heaven, in fact, we can not dominate how long we can live, but we try to make themselves alive every day are happy, happy.

From this medical case of Li Yong, it really should cause every ordinary person to pay attention and think about this issue. 17 months, the world's top tumor hospital in the United States, laryngeal cancer, this information makes us wonder, even in the middle and late stages, even if not treated, there should be this time. With conservative adjuvant treatment, it should be prolonged.

But this medical case of Li Yong tells us is 17 months, which not only makes the nation grieve, but also raises concerns about the efficacy of domestic hospitals. Although it is not known what kind of program Li Yong and his family took, but the domestic hospitals and experts clearly recommend radiotherapy, which is obviously the preferred choice of hospitals, while a considerable number of patients advocate conservative treatment.

The saying that no study is worth its weight in gold is also true a hundred years from now. We, the people, need a control data, a single disease by stage by age. A doctor in a hospital once said (of a certain cancer) that to say that 50% of people have a 5 year survival is a big day's achievement. Medical schools are a systematic and scientifically rigorous institution and should have data on this. Even if only 5% give up radiotherapy, that is a big enough statistic to compare and verify the effectiveness of radiotherapy, so why can't the data speak for itself. The public needs the hospital to disclose this data so that we can have a rational comparison now, so that we can make a choice for ourselves and our loved ones someday. Instead, an expert should use two unserious analogies to mislead the audience, or use such an uncritical analogy as "tearing down the east wall to repair the west wall" to shorten the hospital's program.

Our medical schools, our health care regulators, our media, our headline initiators of this issue, could make public for our people a copy of the data on the efficacy of radiotherapy, and the comparative data without radiotherapy, after this medical case of Li Yong. If the headline can make an investigation and analysis report for this, it will be a great merit for the country and the people.

I agree, when my father's lymphoma, served for most of the year, and finally untreatable. During that time, he went to three hospitals, communicated with patients' families, doctors and even oncologists, and came to the conclusion that cancer should not be touched or treated. Because once you start radiotherapy and chemotherapy, your physical condition will deteriorate rapidly, the cancer cells will spread rapidly, and you will live for half a year at most. Even if surgery is performed, it does not remove all the diseased parts with cancer cells as claimed, but actually removes the serious parts and does not eliminate the root cause. The remaining cancer cells in the weakened body spread rapidly, and a second, or nth, surgery does not help. As a result, oncologists privately admit that real cancer, cannot be cured. Through a lot of exchanges, I found that only those who learn that they have cancer, suddenly have an epiphany, let go of everything, and live happily, may be able to create a selection of miracles.

Cancer is just a general term for a disease. Each person has a different part of the body where the cancer is located, a different period of time when it is detected, and a different personal constitution, so treatment varies from person to person, and naturally, the results obtained are different. If you have a cold, there are different types of colds, how can you generalize the treatment of cancer?

With the gradual improvement of modern medical standards, mankind has made more and more achievements in the treatment of cancer, although a complete cure has not yet been found, but the patient's life is being extended for a longer and longer period of time. Li Yong chose to go to the United States 17 months ago for treatment in more advanced medical conditions, but still did not live a full two years, most likely because he suffered from a high degree of malignant cancer, and the rest is the individual's physical condition and mood and other factors.

Some cancer patients do not die even after 17 months without taking radiotherapy, chemotherapy and other treatments, and there is indeed such a possibility. Maybe these people have breast cancer, thyroid cancer, bladder cancer and other cancers that have a higher survival rate, maybe these people find out that the cancer is still in the early stages, or maybe these people have a particularly high level of psychological quality and still eat well every day and sleep through the night. ......

All in all, chemotherapy and radiotherapy are only one of the means of cancer treatment, and it depends on the specific conditions of the patient to decide which means of anti-cancer treatment should be adopted. As patients, they should follow the doctor's advice and actively cooperate with the treatment, instead of holding the mentality of "treatment is still death, no treatment is still death, no radiotherapy/chemotherapy may still live longer". After all, just because someone else's radiotherapy/chemotherapy works doesn't mean that yours will work, and just because someone else's radiotherapy/chemotherapy doesn't work doesn't mean that yours won't work either.

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